The ‘Zappacast’ podcast is celebrating the forthcoming Frank Zappa release entitled Zappa ’80: Mudd Club/Munich with a special guest appearance from frequent Zappa collaborator, David Logeman.

During the episode, host Scott Parker and producer Phil Surkis are on hand to ask David about auditioning for Frank Zappa’s band, the stamina it takes to play drums during a marathon Zappa performance, and his playing on the seminal album from Zappa, You Are What You Is.

Regarding his first audition, Logeman explains that he wasn’t particularly confident that Zappa would choose him for the band. “And at that time, I had no idea whatsoever that I would even have a remote shot. I just went down because I was a fan. And I think, ‘Okay, wow, I’m going to meet one of my heroes.’ And I thought it would be pretty much it. I heard through the grapevine that Frank had this reputation of a lot of drummers going through the revolving door of the Zappa Band, so I didn’t have any illusions about it at all.”

Fast forward to the end of the grueling audition process, and Zappa offered Logeman the gig in signature fashion. “We were there for hours and hours. At the end, he [Zappa] says, ‘You know, I think this is going to work, and I’d like to hire you to come out. We don’t have much time. I pay a thousand dollars a week. That’s it. Doesn’t matter if you’re in the band 10 years or 10 days.’” Logeman responded by saying, “‘Well, I’m doing some sessions. I make that in a day or two.’ And he goes, ‘Doesn’t make any difference.’ He said, ‘You have to let me know tonight. I’m going to call you. Yes or no?’ And he left.” Suffice it to say, Logeman made the right decision in accepting Zappa’s offer.

Logeman also revealed the improvisational spirit of Zappa’s bands during those days. “Some shows he did stop on certain occasions, and we never knew when that would be, but there were also times when he didn’t hardly say anything and we would be playing and playing and playing. And that was a complete shock to me. I was able to do it, but good thing I was in good shape too because man, I felt like I was half drummer, half athlete to be able to do this stuff, but it was sure was fun.”

Listen to the full episode here.